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    Hmmm... a lifetime 1B/DH with a sub .900 OPS is in the top 20. That seems unusual even if this formula is ignoring defense. Maybe park effects are used in this calculation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy Grant View Post
    Hmmm... a lifetime 1B/DH with a sub .900 OPS is in the top 20. That seems unusual even if this formula is ignoring defense. Maybe park effects are used in this calculation?
    VORP is the one calculation that is used in the rankings for years 2026-2055. Or rather VORP rankings. If I have the highest rated VORP that season, then I get 100 points. If I have the 2nd highest rated VORP that season, then I get 99 points and so on. I think VORP does take defense into account, or at least defensive position.

    OPS is the one calculation that his used in the ranking for years 2001-2025, because the StatsLab numbers don't have VORP. It must not have been a number calculated in the old OOTP4 add-ons. OPS unfortunately doesn't use defense in it's calculation, so there will be some good defensive players with decent offense that will be undervalued in the rankings.

    After getting those numbers, I just add 'em all up. Highest score wins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CubsFan915 View Post
    Trading Paul Pina is the single biggest mistake of my FOBL career.
    The biggest mistakes in each franchise's history would make for another very interesting history project.


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    Just a quick note that the Top 10 will be released one post at a time instead of the usual 5, to enhance whatever suspense still remains from me dragging this out for a month.


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    #10
    Trey Richmond
    Nickname: Putt-Putt
    Date of Birth: October 15, 2020
    Drafted: Drafted by the Queens Bees with the 4th pick in the 1st round of the 2038 draft
    Current Status: Currently with Capital City Metropolitans
    Years Played: 2041-present
    Total Points Scored: 1316
    Number of Years Qualified: 14
    All-Star: 2042, 2045, 2046, 2047, 2048, 2049, 2050, 2054, 2055
    Best Year: Finished 1st!! 3 times, 2045 with Queens, 2046 + 2047 with Cap City. 1.015, 1.061, 1.133 OPS - 111.4, 102.9, 120.3 VORP

    Highest ranked player still active, Putt-Putt shows no signs of slowing down well into his 16th FOBL season. He was drafted by Queens and spent 5 seasons cutting his teeth with the Bees just before Ramzavail went on his sabbatical. He won the Silver Slugger his last season there in 2045, with a .305 52 136 with 136 runs scored and a 1.015 OPS. He hits Free Agency in 2046 and Cap City won the sweepstakes (albeit an expensive one at 15.91 million per). He then proceeds to win two more Silver Sluggers, becoming just the 2nd player ever to lead the league in OPS/VORP 3 straight seasons (Paul Pina was the first). His 2048 was an 'off' season, hitting just .296 46 114. I know. In the last 8 seasons he's topped 1.000 OPS 4 more times, and has grabbed 5 more Silver Slugger Awards. Still only 35, Richmond sits with 2619 hits, 580 homers, and an OPS an eye-popping .993.


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    Whoa!!!
    Capital City Metropolitans 50 Fucking Years Old!!!

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    Erik Davis
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    Date of Birth: February 3, 2005
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    Years Played: 2026-2044
    Total Points Scored: 1335
    Number of Years Qualified: 16
    All-Star: 2031, 2032, 2033, 2034, 2035, 2037, 2038, 2039
    Best Year: Finished 1st!! in 2039 with Greenbelt, 1.172 OPS - 109.0 VORP
    Hall of Fame Induction: 2048

    With a name matching an MLB superstar, Davis was destined for greatness after being drafted #1 overall by the Indianapolis Ice Weasels in 2024, a team that already had a great pedigree. He didn't disappoint, becoming one of the 2 best players ever to grace the uniform. Rookie of the year in 2026 at age 22 with a .306 41 125 line, he spent 9 years with the club, leading them to their 4th SS title in 2030, then winning the Silver Slugger Award in 2033 (.330 50 123). Having achieved all his goals with Indy, he rides the FA and trade wave over the next 11 seasons, first with Green Bay (.980 OPS in 1 season), then Virginia (.900 OPS in 2 seasons), then 3 years with Greenbelt (1.071 OPS). 2039 was particularly special: at age 34 he hit .363 44 118 and a league leading .484 OBP, 1.172 OPS, another Silver Slugger, and an SS title, the Gophers' third. Stops in the Gindin League followed: Las Vegas, Hollywood, Wichita and Durham until he retired at age 41. 2968 hits (oh, so close!), 640 homers, 1890 RBI's, and a .936 lifetime OPS.



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    #8
    Paul Maine
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    Date of Birth: July 14, 1991
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    Current Status: Retired
    Years Played: 2015-2034
    Total Points Scored: 1367
    Number of Years Qualified: 16
    All-Star: 2017, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2032
    Best Year: Finished 2nd in 2029 with Trenton; 1.069 OPS 108.0 VORP
    Hall of Fame Induction: 2038

    That 'Big 6' class in 2012 has been mentioned frequently in this countdown and how all 6 were successful in varying degrees, including 3 Hall of Famers. What hasn't been mentioned is that the overall 10th pick, Paul Maine, had a better career than all of them. For 20 seasons he patrolled third base for the Trenton Roadkill. And during that 2 decade span he steadily and powerfully obliterated many of the FOBL offensive records. His last home run in 2034 was his 812th, passing Brian Devinney for the all-time lead, a record that stood for 20 seasons. He owned the RBI record for 20 seasons with 2364 (currently 2nd). He owned the runs scored record at the time of his retirement with 2177 (currently 2nd). He was second in hits with 3869 (currently stands in 3rd). He still holds the record for most at-bats with 12677. He holds 5 Gold Gloves at 3rd Base and has won 4 Silver Slugger Awards to go with his 12 All-Star appearances. At age 37 he had his peak year in 2029, hitting .363 with 56 homers and 130 RBI's, an OPS of 1.069, his first and only OPS/VORP crown. He retired with all of the above record-breaking totals, and a career OPS of .902.


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    Number one will be "the collective stats of hitters who ever played against Richmond."
    Richmond Confederates

    Gindin League Wild Card 2008, 2018, 2028
    Prairie Division Champion 2009
    Gindin League Champion 2028
    Vaughan League Division Semi-Finalist 2036, 2037, 2038, 2048, 2052, 2053, 2054, 2055, 2056
    Skates Division Regular Season Champion 2057
    Skates Division Playoff Champion 2057
    Gindin League Division Semi-Finalist 2058

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    Greatest thread ever

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    John Johnson
    Nickname: JJ
    Date of Birth: October 17, 1981
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    Current Status: Retired
    Years Played: 2005-2021
    Total Points Scored: 1369
    Number of Years Qualified: 15
    All-Star: 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019
    Best Year: Finished 1st!! 3 times: 2010 with Seminole (1.088 OPS), 2011 + 2013 with Santa Cruz (1.032 + 1.022 OPS)
    Hall of Fame Induction: 2023

    Wow did Trenton have their mitts on some elite level talent. He got away for 6 seasons, but was wise enough to get him back to finish out his Hall of Fame career. JJ along with Paul Pina were the two most recognizable names in FOBL's early years. His rookie season line of .282 36 93 was BY FAR the worst season of his career, at least until his coppage years in the 20's. The ten year period between 2007-2016 he absolutely dominated the league, scoring 982 out of a possible 1000 ranking points, the highest total in any 10 year stretch in FOBL history. 8 times his OPS topped 1.000, 5 of those in the pitching era 10's. When you're that good, you hit no matter what the era. A 13 year stretch where his average never dipped below .321. He won 3 straight Silver Slugger awards from 2009-2011 for 3 different teams. Seminole picked him up for one year in 2010, where they won 105 games. Then he's traded to Santa Cruz, where in 4 seasons his OPS was .998. A rental 1/2 season in Atlantic City followed (alhill just had to have him and his .961 OPS), then back home to Trenton for 7 more seasons. In that final homecoming he wins his 4th Silver Slugger award (.366 34 129) before slowing down at age 37. He retired with 3404 hits (for a brief time he was the all-time leader) 542 homers, 1836 RBI's, 1825 runs scored, a lifetime BA of .334 and a lifetime OPS of .945. In that era. Woof.


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    Manolo is easily the best all-around player I have ever had, and will forever be the face of the franchise. As long as he can get to 3000 hits and retire a DAV 4 LYFE player, i'm satisfied with only getting one title during his career.

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    #6
    Ronald Goodall
    Nickname: Mr. Inside
    Date of Birth: August 24, 1996
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    Years Played: 2018-2036
    Total Points Scored: 1392
    Number of Years Qualified: 17
    All-Star: 2021, 2022, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2032, 2034, 2035
    Best Year: Finished 1st!! 3 times: 2021 with Indianapolis (1.069 OPS), 2028 + 2030 with Santa Cruz (1.107 + 1.069 OPS)
    Hall of Fame Induction: 2039

    The Indianapolis Ice Weasels get a lot of mileage in their tank sessions Their suck fest yielded them the #1 overall pick in 2024 and they Erik Davis. One decade earlier, they outdid themselves with the #1 overall pick in 2017, Ronald 'Mr. Inside' Goodall. He wasn't quite as polished in his early years with Indy; lots of strikeouts (188 his rookie year) and only modest power (12-20), although he had a penchant for doubles, averaging 47 a year for the first 6 years of his career. He bust through to stardom in 2021 with a .346 31 138 line and 155 runs scored, leading the league in OPS while also leading the Weasels to one of the best seasons in FOBL history (126-36), capped off with an SS title. He signs with Wisconsin for a year in 2023, then is shipped off to Philadelphia and Utica for 4 more, maintaining star status with OPS's in the .900-1.000 range. Then something happened. He turns 30, signs with Santa Cruz in 2028 and gets...better. This is a guy who's already a star, but the 5 years as a Sea Lion moves him to the stratosphere. He's no longer hitting 30 homers, he's hitting 50. His Slugging % goes from the .500's to the .600's, and he wins 2 more Silver Slugger awards, his last one at age 35 with a .329 51 134 line. All while maintaining one of the best batting eyes in the game: his 2064 walks rank him 2nd all time. The joys of Sea Lion life. He retired with 3129 hits, 611 homers, 666 doubles, 2084 RBI's, 2064 runs scored (same as his walk total..dig it), and a .936 OPS.


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    #5
    Antonio Ohl
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    Date of Birth: November 24, 1984
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    Years Played: 2006-2024
    Total Points Scored: 1428
    Number of Years Qualified: 16
    All-Star: 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2022
    Best Year: Finished 2nd 6 times, all with Virginia
    Hall of Fame Induction: 2033

    The best player of the 10's, the best player in Virginia history, the best 3rd baseman in history, and the guy that was always one better than Dennis Diaz (see below). Ohl was hyped from the moment he was drafted #1 overall by the Virginia Woodchucks, and lived up to that hype until the day he retired. The consistency is amazing: 10 times he broke 200 hits, 10 times he broke 30 home runs, 10 times he broke 100 RBI's, 13 times he broke 100 runs scored. His average stayed above .300 from 2007 through 2022. He's won 4 Silver Slugger awards in a 10 year span, 2 Gold Gloves and retired as the all-time hit leader (currently 6th). He was an All-Star during the entire 10's decade, one where his OBP never dipped below .399. The fascinating thing I discovered with Ohl, though, was that he never led the league in OPS. He finished 2nd 6 times and 3rd twice more behind such distinguished guests as JJ, Terry Helmuth, Brian Rice, Arthur Shaeffer, and Wally Beauchesne. All great players, but it seemed that he was the hulking giant that pushed other players to their best, if only to stay ahead of him. And for a year they might have done it. But no one during that pitcher's decade was a better hitter. He retired with 3583 hits, 545 homers, 1873 RBI's, 1939 runs scored, a BA of .324 and an OPS of .927.


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    Even I forgot how great he was. What an incredible fake baseball player he was. YOU MAGNIFICENT FAKE BASTARD YOU.

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    Len Hayes
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    Drafted: Drafted by the Orono Pocket Otters with the 1st pick in the 1st round of the 2038 draft
    Current Status: Retired
    Years Played: 2038-2054
    Total Points Scored: 1439
    Number of Years Qualified: 15
    All-Star: 2039, 2040, 2041, 2042, 2043, 2044, 2045, 2046, 2047, 2048, 2049, 2051
    Best Year: Finished 1st! 3 times, 2040
    (1.055 OPS 114.1 VORP) 2041 (1.148 OPS 128.4 VORP) + 2044 (1.007 OPS 90.4 VORP) with Orono

    Hayes was the 1st player selected in the 'new' FOBL era. Shaw had turned up the talent qualifier for a league that desperately needed the influx. You could say that Hayes led the charge of players that 'saved' FOBL. Glen Larson. Brad Philips. Nate Johnston. Pat Sheppard. But none could touch the all-around greatness of Hayes. Orono had him on the big league squad for 8 seasons, 7 were All-Star caliber, and 3 of the Silver Slugger variety. 2041 was a particularly good vintage: .367 41 142 with 131 runs scored, 223 hits, an OPS of 1.148, 128.4 VORP, and even a league leading 60 steals! Heck, he even pitched 4 innings in 2040 during a blowout where the rest of the relievers were hiding under the stands. He travels to Utica during their powerhouse years of 2046-2048 and earns 3 more All-Star appearances. At age 31 he decides to give the Gindin league a try, and set up camp in Hollywood. And he never slowed down until his final coppage year in 2054. 6 times he topped 200 hits, 12 times he topped 30 homers (and was a member of the 30/30 club all 12 times), 15 times he topped 100 runs. He retired just a couple of years ago, with 3187 hits, 553 homers, 2025 runs scored, 786 steals, an OPS of .955. And a vote of thanks from all 32 owners for bringing the sting back into the FOBL.


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    I almost had Goodall, Bocanegra, Colon, and Lejeune in the same infield at the same time, but I moved Lejeune to DH tbat year because of his declining defensive range.

    They weren't Sea Lions for Life, but Goodall and JJ were definitely the best players I ever had.
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    #3
    Joan Sprouse
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    Date of Birth: October 10, 1989
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    Years Played: 2012-2033
    Total Points Scored: 1444
    Number of Years Qualified: 19
    All-Star: 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2022, 2023, 2027, 2029
    Best Year: Finished 1st!! 3 times - 2014 with Greenbelt (.970 OPS), 2020 with Minnesota (1.022 OPS), 2023 with Greenbelt (1.048 OPS)
    Hall of Fame Induction: 2035

    For 22 seasons, Joan Sprouse was the steadiest of superstars, climbing his (her) way into the record books with year after year of mass production in the hitting industry. Started with Greenbelt in 2012 with a modest .278 24 70 line, and it would be another 18 seasons before his (her) output would be so low. 11 times he (she) topped 200 hits, and was durable enough to miss no more than 5 games for 10 seasons. Power was there, too. Not as grand as a JJ or Len Hayes, he (she) nevertheless topped 30 homers 12 times, and 30 doubles 8 times. 16 straight seasons of 100 or more RBI's, and another 15 seasons with 100 or more runs. His (her) 3 OPS wins actually came 9 years apart: first in the offensively challenged 2014 season (.346 39 109), then again 6 years later playing with Minnesota post historic tank (.362 40 141), then 3 years after THAT after resigning back with Greenbelt (.358 46 145). Sprouse's best season, arguably, has to be 2029 though. At age 39 with Durham, he hit .368 41 167, leading the league with 255 hits and an 87.8 VORP. At age 39. He (she) played 4 more seasons, becoming the first and only player ever to cross the 4000 hit mark. The current hit king retired with 4137 hits, 628 homers, 2320 RBI's (3rd all time), a .330 BA and an OPS of .911. So it's a guy, right? Look at that face.


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    Joan will always be fondly remembered by the DUR organization.
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    #2
    Brian Gibson
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    Date of Birth: October 27, 2005
    Drafted: Drafted by the Minnesota Windchill with the 4th pick in the 1st round of the 2027 draft
    Current Status: Retired
    Years Played: 2028-2047
    Total Points Scored: 1585
    Number of Years Qualified: 18
    All-Star: 2030, 2031, 2032, 2033, 2034, 2035, 2036, 2037, 2038, 2039, 2040, 2041, 2043, 2044, 2046
    Best Year: 2036 with Hollywood and 2038 with Boston; finished 2nd with 1.035 OPS 92.3 VORP and 1.076 OPS 95.6 VORP
    Hall of Fame Induction: 2050

    He drifted around so much in his 20 year career that I don't think there is a full appreciation for how dominant he was. Or with the number of teams that grabbed him, maybe there was. 5 teams, 2 additional occasions where he went with a franchise switch, never more than 5 years in 1 city, Gibson is FOBL's greatest nomad. He was the 4th overall pick in 2027 and debuted with the Minnesota Wind Chill one year later; 207 hits his very first season. Then 200 in 2028, then 201 in 2029, the league knew he was going to be special. 8 times he topped 200 hits, and a whopping 18 seasons he hit 30 more homers. Minnesota switches to Mauston, then Gibson signs with Hollywood (where all the great players seem to go to shine). Wins the first of his 3 Silver Slugger awards as a Whore in 2036 (.334 50 123). A blockbuster trade with Boston (involving Adam Keesee) sends him over to the Pagans where he has the best season of his career in '38 (.316 50 144 and another Silver Slugger), causing Drake to spontaneously combust. He never could handle his superstars. A move to Alaska for 3 seasons nabs him his 3rd Silver Slugger in '40 (.340 40 114). Then Alaska becomes Davenport (doesn't it seem like everyone played for Hollywood or Davenport at some point?) and he rides a wave of .900 OPS's into his late 30's. Even Barstow got some good seasons out of him at the end! 12 consecutive All-Star teams and 15 total. 3771 hits. 758 homers. 2258 RBI's. Hank Aaron numbers, eh? (look it up). A career .312 average and .944 OPS. Onward Brian Gibson drifts. The second greatest player ever.


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    I have literally never heard of Brian Gibson until today.
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    #1
    Rodrigo Rivera
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    Date of Birth: August 27, 2011
    Drafted: Drafted by the Columbus Crows with the 7th pick in the 1st round of the 2030 draft
    Current Status: Retired
    Years Played: 2031-2053
    Total Points Scored: 1625
    Number of Years Qualified: 20
    All-Star: 2034, 2037, 2038, 2039, 2040, 2041, 2042, 2043, 2044, 2046, 2048, 2051
    Best Year: Finished 1st!! 3 times; 2037 (1.172 OPS 128.7 VORP) 2042 (1.087 OPS 103.5 VORP) 2043 (1.123 OPS 111.6 VORP), all with Columbus
    Hall of Fame Induction: Better be freakin' soon.

    It wasn't just his ability to get on base, though he could do that (3771 hits, tied with Gibson, how weird is that?). It wasn't just his ability to take a pitch, though he could do that. (1643 walks). It wasn't just that he could hit it out of the park, though he did that better than anyone ever did (831 homers, 1st all time), or that he drove in runs (2582, 1st all time), or that he scored runs (2264, 1st all time). Or even his ability to swipe bases (277 steals). It's that he did all of it FOR SO DAMN LONG. 23 seasons with the Columbus Crows, and he never slowed down. No crippling injuries, no 'down' years. From the time he was drafted as the #7 overall pick in 2030, to age 19 when he debuted as a September callup in 2031 to his first full season at age 20 and a .324 17 78 line, through 12 All-Star teams, 4 Silver Slugger Awards, 7 consecutive seasons with an OPS over 1.000 and 5 straight seasons with 140 or more RBI's to his 2051 season line of .320 50 152 at age 39, he never stopped dominating. Even the greatest players on this list would keep it up for 10, 12 seasons and then coppage out. Rivera lasted 21 before his skills finally eroded well into his 40's. His fielding was just fair; he never led his team to an SS title unfortunately, and he didn't play in the hyper-active era of FOBL, nor was he frequent trade bait where many owners can reap the rewards of his play. Crow knew what he had, he kept him happy, and he played and dominated. And played and dominated. T.J. Crater is probably the best person that could match the lofty stats that Rivera has produced, but he'll need to do it for another decade, something no one has had the stamina to do. For now, for a lonnnng time, Rivera is the greatest hitter in FOBL history. Not bad for a guy who was drafted behind Carlos Rubio, eh? 10 bucks says you didn't think I'd end this countdown with a Carlos Rubio reference.


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    A listing of the Top 50 players summary scores:

    Rank Name # of Entries * 2 Total Total 00's Total 10's Total 20's Total 30's Total 40's Total 50's
    #1 Rodrigo Rivera 40 1625 0 0 0 550 865 170
    #2 Brian Gibson+ 36 1585 0 0 52 858 639 0
    #3 Joan Sprouse+ 38 1444 0 613 758 35 0 0
    #4 Len Hayes* 30 1439 0 0 0 86 963 360
    #5 Antonio Ohl+ 32 1428 255 965 176 0 0 0
    #6 Ronald Goodall+ 34 1392 0 2 821 535 0 0
    #7 John Johnson+ 30 1369 427 912 0 0 0 0
    #8 Paul Maine+ 32 1367 0 223 808 304 0 0
    #9 Erik Davis+ 32 1335 0 0 205 927 171 0
    #10 Trey Richmond* 28 1316 0 0 0 0 779 509
    #11 Arthur Millikan+ 32 1307 0 0 463 806 6 0
    #12 William Reedy+ 28 1257 751 478 0 0 0 0
    #13 Joseph Lowry+ 28 1246 815 403 0 0 0 0
    #14 Manolo Rodriguez* 30 1232 0 0 0 0 722 480
    #15 Fred Ball+ 28 1197 0 0 0 889 280 0
    #16 Ronald Oliveros+ 32 1190 0 0 363 795 0 0
    #17 John Lozano+ 28 1158 0 0 0 775 355 0
    #18 Larry Goguen+ 28 1148 402 718 0 0 0 0
    #19 Paul Pina+ 24 1143 868 251 0 0 0 0
    #20 Simon Farr+ 34 1141 0 0 307 718 82 0
    #21 David Miceli+ 34 1122 0 0 326 622 140 0
    #22 Lemuel Jarvis+ 32 1111 0 0 701 378 0 0
    #23 Nicholas Schlemmer+ 30 1101 0 0 0 733 338 0
    #24 Lawerence Spillers+ 26 1092 0 532 534 0 0 0
    #25 Lee Mckittrick+ 28 1067 0 0 403 636 0 0
    #26 Dennis Diaz+ 26 1067 0 785 256 0 0 0
    #27 Alex Mejia+ 22 1053 0 0 0 293 738 0
    #28 Brian Devinney+ 28 1044 632 384 0 0 0 0
    #29 Adam Keesee+ 30 1032 0 0 301 682 19 0
    #30 Sakonshirou Kenzaburo+ 28 1030 0 0 125 765 112 0
    #31 Carlos Bellido+ 26 1029 0 0 93 825 85 0
    #32 Donny Room+ 26 1015 0 84 883 22 0 0
    #33 Brian Buterbaugh+ 26 998 23 724 225 0 0 0
    #34 Dylan Vessy* 24 989 0 0 0 0 622 343
    #35 Gary Frances+ 24 989 709 256 0 0 0 0
    #36 Elvis Cianciolo+ 28 976 667 281 0 0 0 0
    #37 Gregory McIntosh+ 28 965 712 225 0 0 0 0
    #38 Guy Stewart 24 964 0 0 0 742 198 0
    #39 Charles Dorazio+ 26 959 311 551 71 0 0 0
    #40 Tony Ehmann+ 24 959 426 509 0 0 0 0
    #41 David Tiffany+ 28 947 592 327 0 0 0 0
    #42 Charles Helfer+ 22 942 0 0 89 747 84 0
    #43 Don MacKinley 24 908 0 0 0 0 641 243
    #44 P.J. Whittier 24 908 0 0 0 142 712 30
    #45 Alejo Bocanegra+ 24 898 0 134 619 121 0 0
    #46 Toshitsugu Koda+ 22 897 0 0 0 844 31 0
    #47 Freddie Wiens+ 22 894 741 131 0 0 0 0
    #48 Francisco Torre+ 22 875 0 0 0 698 155 0
    #49 Don Jones* 18 862 0 0 0 0 264 580
    #50 Victor Sanchez* 22 857 0 0 0 0 457 378


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    Quote Originally Posted by Subby View Post
    I have literally never heard of Brian Gibson until today.
    GIBBAY!


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    Also fuck JJ. I always knew Ohl was better.
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