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Thread: Discussion - new playoff format - poll #3

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    Default Discussion - new playoff format - poll #3

    OK, we need to refocus a bit. It's obvious we are either going with (A) 6 teams from each league or (B) the current system of 8 teams from each league.

    The main difference is, going with 6 teams will require a BYE for 2 teams, and there was some resistance to implementing a BYE system.

    We need to decide, officially, whether we're moving forward with (A) or (B). Then we can deal with how many wild cards, re-seeding, etc.

    If I don't get an adequate number of responses, I'll force read this bitch.

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    I think 6 teams is the way to go. Our postseason is already screwy enough, I don't think adding BYEs will make it any more screwy. Ask ALK.

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    At the very least, you'll only have the chance of a 6 seed winning rather than an 8 seed.


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    Right, letting in 8 teams makes it too predictable. Obviously, some 4th place team would win the SS in that setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuervo72 View Post
    At the very least, you'll only have the chance of a 6 seed winning rather than an 8 seed.



    A 1st place team has won only 3 of the last 10 SS's, so I'm thinking the bye wouldn't change things too much anyway.


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    please, please, please let's cut it down from 8 teams in each league. Please. The bye won't change things too much except the fourth place team won't win the SS since it won't make the playoffs. The 4th place team should never be allowed to win the SS.


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    it's interesting that in this year, in almost every division there is a drop off from the 3rd place team to the 4th. The DEFCON is a bit different in that its 6th place team is as good as the 2nd place team in the Skates Division.

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    Just wait until next year, Argot. Ice Cream Sandwich in the VL is going to be fucking monstrous once MBJ and UTI promote all their talent. Between them and the existing good teams, it'll look like the way DEFCON is this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgado View Post
    Just wait until next year, Argot. Ice Cream Sandwich in the VL is going to be fucking monstrous once MBJ and UTI promote all their talent. Between them and the existing good teams, it'll look like the way DEFCON is this year.

    We'll be promoting no less than 10 players from AAA next year. No predictions, but our 2042 AAA team would kick the piss out of our ML squad.


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    13 more voters to go. Let's get this wrapped up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgado View Post
    Just wait until next year, Argot. Ice Cream Sandwich in the VL is going to be fucking monstrous once MBJ and UTI promote all their talent. Between them and the existing good teams, it'll look like the way DEFCON is this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgado View Post
    Just wait until next year, Argot. Ice Cream Sandwich in the VL is going to be fucking monstrous once MBJ and UTI promote all their talent. Between them and the existing good teams, it'll look like the way DEFCON is this year.
    *Ahem*

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    Shaw really hearts the poll.That's all I have to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CubsFan915 View Post
    *Ahem*

    u ass
    I thought you weren't mass promoting until 2044 - you're bringing them all up next season?

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    4 of our top 6 are already up, though #1 is a September callup and it remains to be seen whether he'll head north with us next year to open the season.

    That said, my pitching staff is weak enough that we're still going to struggle a bit, IMO.
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    Let's finish this off. I set a force read on this three. I hope it worked.

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    At least the playoff system works okay. So yeah, do what you want.
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    Yet to vote:

    BAR, ORO, QNS, SAC, TRI, UTI, WIC

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    voted

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    One thing to note... any change to the playoff structure will have to be accomplished via constitutional amendment, which requires 22 "yes" votes (and by extension, no more than 10 "no" votes).

    On the surface, a change to 6 teams appears to fail already, but if the majority goes with 6, I'll put it up for an official amendment vote to allow people to persuade some "8 team" voters to go along with them.

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    Has the playoff money reallocation been sorted out for six teams?
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    I sill vote for 4. Do I have a vote? that would be silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrIllini View Post
    Has the playoff money reallocation been sorted out for six teams?
    I was thinking that we could keep much the same structure, $1M per series win (and the by would count as a series win), but modifying or evening out any money from making the playoffs. The current 800k/600k/400k/200k ($2M/division) might become a flat 500k each ($1.5M/division), for instance (this would reduce the current total payouts from $23M to $21M). Or even 600k/500k/400k. On the surface it would look like coming in 1st would be devalued, but those teams are getting a guaranteed extra $1M from a bye, which is pretty good I'd say.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    One thing to note... any change to the playoff structure will have to be accomplished via constitutional amendment, which requires 22 "yes" votes (and by extension, no more than 10 "no" votes).

    On the surface, a change to 6 teams appears to fail already, but if the majority goes with 6, I'll put it up for an official amendment vote to allow people to persuade some "8 team" voters to go along with them.
    I'm a little uncertain why this has to get a 2/3 vote, when the change to the 8 teams per league didn't need a 2/3 vote to pass. Granted, it DID get the 2/3 vote, but only when pitted against a 4 teams per league, which nobody wanted (This was part of the "contraction and get the league re-charged again" series of votes). 6 teams wasn't an option in the vote because it wasn't an option in OOTP11. Now that it is in OOTP13, I think a simple majority should be sufficient when both options are presented.


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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenrope View Post
    I'm a little uncertain why this has to get a 2/3 vote, when the change to the 8 teams per league didn't need a 2/3 vote to pass.
    Wasn't it a FIAT because the league was a hair away from closing up shop for good.

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